Total Weight:
37.3 lbs (16.91 kg)
Battery Weight:
6.4 lbs (2.9 kg)
Motor Weight:
6.3 lbs (2.85 kg)
Frame Material:
Carbon Fiber
Frame Sizes:
432 in (1097.28 cm)462 in (1173.48 cm)492 in (1249.68 cm)522 in (1325.88 cm)552 in (1402.08 cm)582 in (1478.28 cm)612 in (1554.48 cm)Geometry Measurements:
Medium 522mm: 20.25" Seat Tube, 16.5" Reach, 21.25" Top Tube, 32.25" Stand Over Height, 37" Minimum Saddle Height, 41" Maximum Saddle Height, 20.25" Width, 41.5" Wheelbase, 70" Length
Frame Types:
High-Step
Frame Colors:
Matte Blue with Matte Black Accents
Frame Fork Details:
Canyon FK0064 Rigid Carbon Fiber, 100mm Hub Spacing, 12mm Thru-Axle with Quick Release
Frame Rear Details:
Boost 148mm Hub Spacing, 12mm Thru-Axle with Quick Release
Attachment Points:
Two Bottle Cage Bosses, Mudguard Mounts (Front and Rear)
Gearing Details:
11
Speed 1x11 Shimano GRX RX812 Derailleur with One-Way Clutch, Shimano Deore XT M8000 11-42 Tooth CassetteShifter Details:
Shimano GRX RX810 Paddles on Right (Brake Lever Integrated, Small Lever for High Shifts, Brake and Small Lever for Low Shifts)
Cranks:
FSA CK-702 Gen4, 170mm or 175mm Crank Arms, CNRI FSA 44 Tooth Narrow-Wide Chainring BOSH Gen4 Spider Boost, FSA Aluminum Alloy Guard
Pedals:
No Pedals Included
Headset:
Internal, Sealed Bearings, Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/4"
Stem:
Proprietary Aerodynamic Design, Handlebar Integrated, Aluminum Alloy, 120mm Forward Extension, One 5mm Spacer, One 10mm Spacer
Handlebar:
Canyon CP07 Gravelcockpit, Carbon Fiber, Ergonomic Shape, 70mm Reach, 130mm Drop
Brake Details:
Shimano GRX RX810 Hydraulic Disc with 160mm ICE-Tech Freeza Rotors, GRX Dual-Piston Calipers with Heat Dissipating Blades, GRX Four-Finger Drop Bar Levers with Hoods
Grips:
Rubberized Grip Tape Wrap
Saddle:
Fizik Argo Tempo, Short Nose and Cutout
Seat Post:
Canyon S15 VCLS 2.0 Carbon Fiber, 25/13mm Setback (Splayed Design for Vibration Dampening)
Seat Post Length:
350 mm
Seat Post Diameter:
27.2 mm
Rims:
DT Swiss HG 1800 Spline, Aluminum Alloy, 622x24, 28 Hole
Spokes:
Stainless Steel, Bladed, DT Aero Comp Wide Straightpull, Black with Nipples
Tire Brand:
Schwalbe G-One, 28" x 2.0" 50-622
Wheel Sizes:
28 in (71.12cm)Tire Details:
45 to 65 PSI, 2.5 to 4.5 BAR, Bite (Designed for Off-Road Use), TLE (Tubeless Easy)
Tube Details:
Presta Valve, Long Stem
Accessories:
Rubberized Sticker Slap Guard
Other:
Locking Removable Downtube-Integrated Battery Pack, 1.7lb 4 Amp Charger, Maximum Cadence > 120 RPM Motor Support, Locking Core (ABUS or AXA)
Jack
3 years agoI love love love my Creo, but man, this bike is cool! Court, how loud would you say this is compared to the Creo? I would upgrade to the Kiox display for sure.
ReplyCourt![](https://electricbikereview.website/wp-content/themes/reflex/assets/images/ebrCommenter.png)
3 years agoHi Jack! I’d love to test the both side-by-side, but my gut feeling is that the Bosch Performance Line Speed motor on the Grail:ON is louder. It’s a lot more powerful on paper, and in person. I love the Specialized SL motors because they are so light, and impressively powerful, but Bosch takes the win on power, weight, and noise with their offering ;)
ReplyEbiker01
3 years agoGreat review and a very nice German carbon ebike for a great price imo. Question, is the display upgradeable to NYON? Also, your hard work to do this reviews, edit, etc… that should not be free! Ads and reputable reviews are worth a lot of $ for companies.
ReplyCourt![](https://electricbikereview.website/wp-content/themes/reflex/assets/images/ebrCommenter.png)
3 years agoHi Ebiker01! Great question… Yes, I feel pretty confident that the Bosch Purion display can be upgraded to Nyon. My friend owns a shop in Southern California and he has done this before. You would need to pay for the part and some service, but I think it’s possible. Perhaps you could contact a local Bosch ebike dealer to ask about ordering and installing :)
Yes, I appreciate your encouragement to get paid for the work done here. I do make some money from YouTube ads that automatically play, but I try to limit them to start and stop vs. the middle of videos because that’s annoying. I also make some money from shops that advertise their location here on our directory, and some bikes pay to be promoted. My goal is to keep the site clean and easy to use, not mislead people in any way. I want to be objective and balance the profit model with creating a nice space. Glad you enjoyed this review!
ReplyGravel Rider
3 years agoI’ve spent considerable time riding both the Grail:On and the Creo Expert Evo. I would say they have different, but partially overlapping strengths. They’re both fantastic machines fully comfortable on both tarmac and dirt. The Creo is a lighter, more svelte, a more road-oriented bike. The motor’s integration with peddling is incredibly smooth, even at the middle setting it’s sometimes hard to tell if it’s on, though turn it off and then you realize it definitely was! Riding without any power is a joy. The full power is less than the the Grail, but still considerable at the highest setting. In more tricky dirt, the bike seems less stable, partly given the tires are thinner than the Grail. The Creo also does not look like an e-bike, and only the keen eye will notice what it is. Alternately, the Grail:On looks like a bike from the near future. While the battery is well integrated into the down tube, it clearly reads electric bike. It’s heavier than the Creo, but still feels relatively light and maneuverable. I also find the the sitting position and cockpit configuration very comfortable. The fatter tires make the ride a bit softer and significantly better on rougher dirt. The motor is a blast… almost like riding a motorcycle at higher levels, and is really fun on steep climbs. The motor is louder than on the Creo and is not as smooth on its power application. So, if you want a go anywhere at anytime bike, particularly if your focus is more off road, I think the Canyon is the better choice. If you want a beautifully engendered, state-of-the-art stealth e-bike that feels like a regular bike, the Creo is the better choice. In short, they’re both great but are targeted as slightly different use cases.
ReplyCourt![](https://electricbikereview.website/wp-content/themes/reflex/assets/images/ebrCommenter.png)
3 years agoExcellent feedback, I agree with you and appreciate you taking the time to share this here with us! You’re an excellent writer :)
ReplyLARRY HINES
3 years agoI have a friend with the Creo Comp ($6k range not $9.5k), and it’s a beautiful bike. Rides very easy. I choose the Canyon Grail on cf8 for the options it offers for different riding possibilities, (came with peddles fyi, that I won’t use). First ride was 60.5 miles ended with 2 bars left on the battery. I kept it on eco thru out with a few steep inclines to test how long battery would last on a full charge. Bike is a medium I’m 5’8″ fits perfect. This bike comes with top 800 series GRX no skimping on parts. Great build quality. This my 3rd e-bike (I think I may have an addiction).
I would like to change display to Cobi or Nylon not sure what it will take or possible. If anyone knows how or if possible I would like to hear. Also is possible to put on 48 tooth front sprocket on the GRX?
ReplyGe
1 year agoHi, I spoke with a rep from Bosch and she says if it is a performance line speed motor paired with a Purion display it IS upgradable to Nyon system. That would be really nice to be able to set your assist levels for each 4 assist modes is I believe how that works. But, she said it is not compatible with the PLS motors with the Smart System (and another app ebike flow app) and display and assist control. Really sad the new display and pad look like something that should come on a neophyte’s bike or the many pedestrian bikes you see around and it is a brand new display and controller. Give them a call I was surprised how helpful they were for technical questions when I ask for someone that was…
ReplyCourt![](https://electricbikereview.website/wp-content/themes/reflex/assets/images/ebrCommenter.png)
1 year agoYou’re right on, Ge! The last generation of ebike systems from Bosch was considered Generation 1 (even though it had four generations within it) and they were compatible with the eBike Connect smartphone app with limited features (map, ride tracker, heart rate). The new Generation 2 is called Smart System and uses a different charger, battery, and motors (even though the motors are basically the same from what I can tell, they just have a new communication system and work with the eBike Flow app). The new app lets you adjust assist levels and provides more feedback to brands who can make their own branded apps.
Ge
1 year agoHi I posted a long winding comment on the YT video so I won’t go on, but the stand over for the bike you were on is really stand-over that would usually be a size larger because their size medium measures out that way. If you go to the website and put in your height and inseam it will put you on a size small at 5’9″/175mm tall. I know you said it was the only one they had for you to try.
So, no big deal when you get a size small to test? Actually it is a really big deal because the chainstays are too short to run anything except a 650b on (2xs,xs and “small” sizes). (I spent a bit of time with them on the phone and emails and they were very helpful with technical details.) Too bad for anyone that wants to have a normal size medium e-gravel bike because this carbon bike at the price would be a category winner. So not sure where who the design engineers are but pretty sure they are all ginormous… 🙄
ReplyCourt![](https://electricbikereview.website/wp-content/themes/reflex/assets/images/ebrCommenter.png)
1 year agoInteresting, that’s great feedback Ge! Thanks for chiming in about the wheel size constraint of the smaller frame. Perhaps I’d go with a Medium and adjust the stem or handlebar if needed. The Grail:ON was pretty cool in many respects, I’m sure it’s a challenge to build a range of frames that all work with the standard motor and battery length. I have seen other companies change wheel size for the smaller frames, along with stem, handlebar, and even crank arm length.
ReplyGe
1 year agoAgreed but they should not call 5’9″ tall a size small and slap a 650b wheel on it even though many even are crazy enough to run 650b wheels on everything now in many cases. Not that I hate 275er’s. Myself and one other guy in the United States many years ago were the first persons to test bikes built (specifically the original Ibis Mojo), for smaller wheels with 650bs. Even started calling them 275ers for the first time. But we also were recommending folks to try them starting at a smaller height and getting them off of the freakin 26″ wheel endo standard. Then at around 5’9″ (and even 5’7″) trying 29er’s. Everyone is different.
Regardless, thanks for the awesome review I ordered the model in the 522st/577tt “medium” because there was no other choice to get a decent wheel size. Just glad they measure center to top on the seat tube as SOP like everyone. I assume center to center of course on the tt. In was annoying that they do not fill out the graph of angles in the geo schematic like almost all other manufactures do so you can easily see where they measure from. The more I have read about them the with various reviews the more I see their size designations being called into question by review experts. Oh well, will be nice to have 30 days to check if it will work. Because the rest of the spec at this price point blows the door off of anything else by ~ a grand.
Ge Hu
1 year agoHi the best workups as always, you have helped me buy a bike before with all your test. I don’t remember which one now but it was one of my many Giant ebikes. Anyway quick important note for those in the 5’9″ range you have the geometry with a minimum size height as 37″ but according to the website and what you must have adjusted your seat height close to during the test the minimum listed on their site Minimum Saddle Height of 28″/713mm with a max as 32″/813mm in size “medium” vs the 37″ & 41″ posted here.
Can I ask you since we are the same height and I am trying to figure out how high the seat would be for me from your video review, what height do you like to set your seat at or how high was it set in this video? That actually would help me quite a bit decide. That and the fact the standover is just crazy bad with this missed sized bike.
ReplyCourt![](https://electricbikereview.website/wp-content/themes/reflex/assets/images/ebrCommenter.png)
1 year agoHi Ge, thanks for the compliment! I do my best here. Regarding saddle height, I tend to set it very high in order to get near full leg extension. Full can be dangerous with knees, and too short can also cause my knees pain, but I have a tall inseam, so my saddle is always pretty high… Unfortunately, I just don’t know how high. I set it manually for each bike and for many reviews.
ReplyGe
1 year agoAwesome! I hope the bike works well for you, I’d love to hear how you like it. When do you expect to get the bike, is it coming to a local shop or directly to you?
Hi again, for some reason you reply came in the email but did not show up in the feed so I thought I would reply this way: Could not find at a local shop except a shop I like a lot that does the Velofix delivery from them but it was very expensive. I should have it on Monday (ordered this past wed and it shipped the same day.)
While I have you on the line, I have an awesome egravel bike that has kinda snuck under the radar Giant REVOLT E+PRO. It does not have the clearance quite for 50mm tires but pretty close. What it does have that the gestapo Bosch motor doesn’t is easy chainstay trick speed tuning for the syncdrive pro 80nm motor. (I will probably use volspeed on the Grail:on). The Syndrive firmware that gives you 5/3 levels of assist. As well as a whisper quiet engine. (I have a brand new TRANCE X E+PRO 29 that is obviously geared differently because it is as noisy as my Shimano Steps 8000 but same yama motor as the revolt). Anyway, if you live near Denver (I am in Lakewood on Green Mountain), and want to borrow either of those 2 for a review feel free to look me up once we get back there in late May. That would be fun because you to do such great technical reviews.
I will post on the Grail a week or 2 I am pretty much a cynical old man. Not happy about the chainring being only 44t vs 47t on my revolt plus does not look like much room to just change it out even though it is boost. Was not too happy in the review video of the noise of the motor or cockpit either but had to at least try it (for the 30 days no questions at that incredible price for the features) because I really need another ebike.
Best regards, g